Joseph Atwill "Caesar's Messiah"

[someguy]

I'm an on again off again lurker/writer here but I can't remember my old account so had to create a new one.

Atwill got the chance to peddle his swill on the Skeptiko podcast (a podcast that itself is interesting as it deals with controversial  ideas). Sadly the host takes things like Acharya S and Atwill seriously.

Anyways, Atwill is currently participating in the thread discussing his appearance on the show and attempting to peddle his nonsense using the alias gilius2K14.

Are any of you interested in playing to show how seriously demented his theory is?

www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/241-joseph-atwill-responds-to-caesar's-messiah-critics.611/page-13

[evangelion]

Oh wow. Atwill is a 9/11 Truther and general conspiracy theorist!

Here's his justification for refusing to submit his work to proper academic review:

Szechuan, since spotting patterns between books is not technical, what's to stop you analysing it here? You don't need anyone to hold your hand. Scholars and authority figures will only do things in their best interests, which includes avoiding controversial issues like this.

You think Richard Carrier doesn't know that the Flavians invented Christianity? Of course he knows because he's an intelligent guy (part psychopath himself; they are in the best position to understand these things), but if he took that stance in public then his "atheist celebrities" would be mad at him.

He would no longer have much of a reputation or be able to feed his ego. His best interest is to try to stop people seeing a pattern or thinking for themselves despite all the brainwashing and damage inflicted by their culture and environment.

Likewise, no news channel is going to report that explosives were found by scientists investigating at the World Trade Centre because it's against their best interests, and they are controlled by the government. So seeking official publication is not the way to go.

Even authority figures like your doctors will do things against your best interests. You could try and prove to them that you have a bacterial infection instead of a virus, and because you are disagreeing with authority, they might insist you have virus but with a secondary bacterial infection!

The government doesn't really care about you, and neither does anyone else. Just keep paying your taxes, including the hidden tax of yearly inflation. The more power humans have the more they just want to manipulate and exploit others.

No official news channel is going to address people's concerns that all the photos of the passengers on the missing Malaysian jet look like photoshop jobs. Let's hope the Internet stays unfiltered in the future!

What a nutjob!

[someguy]

I may be wrong. Gilius2k14 may not be Atwill, but is at the least a devoted fanboy.

[fortigurn]

Not Atwill, just a general nutter.

[ignorantianescia]

You think Richard Carrier doesn't know that the Flavians invented Christianity? Of course he knows because he's an intelligent guy (part psychopath himself; they are in the best position to understand these things), but if he took that stance in public then his "atheist celebrities" would be mad at him.

He would no longer have much of a reputation or be able to feed his ego. His best interest is to try to stop people seeing a pattern or thinking for themselves despite all the brainwashing and damage inflicted by their culture and environment.

With fellow Mythicists like this, who needs "historicists" as opponents?

But fortigurn's right, the poster is another bloke named Giles Gaffney: www.caesarsmessiahproven.com

[evangelion]

What a fruitcake. Atwill's 'parallels' look like the haphazard exegetical muddling of a 1st year theology student.

[someguy]

In my experience, some people promoting loony theories have not been above creating alter egos to promote their agenda. You'll forgive me if I'm not entirely certain.

[fortigurn]

This article is particularly relevant to Mytherists. Emphasis mine.

Chomsky shut down Tuskin's claims. If scientists had strong evidence to support 9/11 conspiracy theories, he said, they would have presented their discoveries to other architects and engineers, would have published their arguments in scientific journals and attempted to persuade other professionals that they'd found something worth investigating.

"There happen to be a lot of people around who spent an hour on the Internet and think they know a lot of physics," he added, "but it doesn't work like that ... There's a reason there are graduate schools in these departments."

[evangelion]

What a belter.