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Post by humphreyclarke on Aug 26, 2009 11:13:47 GMT
Do these fundamentalist chaps not worry about the doctrine of omni-beneficence?. Their interpretation of our relationship to the divine seems to be akin to one long conveyor belt to Dante's inferno.
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Post by rocketmantis on Oct 2, 2009 1:27:18 GMT
Hello Board, My name is Matt and I've followed James's blog/site for years and lurked at Quodlibeta since its inception. Fascinating stuff! I've never considered myself quite well read enough to contribute much, but I thought I'd dip my tow in the water by adding a little tidbit to a month old thread It would certainly be interesting if these subjects had these experiences while their brain functioning is zero. I'm generally fairly ambivalent about NDEs but I happen across this story on NPR www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104397005With all the blood drained out of her head, I would say this is a excellent example of brain functioning being zero. Cheers! Matt
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Post by krkey1 on Oct 3, 2009 22:11:45 GMT
Hey Matt Thanks for the link. I found the Bedard experiment to be interesting, however I don't really think it is an NDE. It lacks too many aspects of the classic NDE, such as encountering dead relatives or visually perceiving what is going on around them while unconscious. The nicest way to describe Woerlee is to say he is wrong. Consider his explanation for Pam Reynolds. She was aware during anesthesia ( odds 1 in 2000 according to him), the ear plugs didn't work ( if they didn't work then the surgery could not have been done. I should note they click at 95 Decibels at 11 per second) Reynolds just happened to remember something from her childhood identical to what was used on her, I think everyone gets the picture. And cases like Reynolds are not alone, consider this one: The case of Al Sullivan: Al was a 55 year old truck driver who was undergoing triple by-pass surgery when he had a powerful NDE that included an encounter with his deceased mother and brother-in-law, who told Al to go back to his to tell one of his neighbors that their son with lymphoma will be OK. Furthermore, during the NDE, Al accurately noticed that the surgeon operating on him was flapping his arms in an unusual fashion, with his hands in his armpits. When he came back to his body after the surgery was over, the surgeon was startled that Al could describe his own arm flapping, which was his idiosyncratic method of keeping his hands sterile. Here is another one- michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2009/03/heres-an-interesting-case-involving-a-near-death-experience-which-was-recommended-in-comments-by-markus-hesse-the-link-mark.htmlThe kind of cases keep coming up. How likely is it that the dying brain can explain all of them. How likely is it that literally millions of people are wrong about what happened to them?
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Post by krkey1 on Oct 3, 2009 22:16:12 GMT
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