Post by merkavah12 on Jul 26, 2010 3:37:52 GMT
Even after all that Tim said....ever after all this time....THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE TRYING TO DEFEND THIS GARBAGE:
armariummagnus.blogspot.com/2009/05/agora-and-hypatia-hollywood-strikes.html
The "end of Rational Free-Thinking represented by Hellenistic Science"?
Really now?
Oooh. Extra points for the Cyril conspiracy theory and digging up Bruno again.
armariummagnus.blogspot.com/2009/05/agora-and-hypatia-hollywood-strikes.html
Finally saw the film almost a year after its release, hardly having enough car chases and explosions to merit a big PR push in the Bible Belt.
So you really think this was just another Church-bashing pandering to neo-atheists? Without repeating some of the other objections above, do you really believe:
1) that Cyril was just doing what any good bishop would do under like circumstances? Do you know what the Novations stood for and why he persecuted them? Why he called in his personal army of Nitrian monks (though how they could remotely be considered "men of God" is beyond me) to do his dirty work?
2) that Giordano Bruno's brutal execution was just because he was a nutcase and raving mystic, so not really a true attack on science?
3) that what we now think of as scientific principles of investigation were not undermined, threatened, and eventually completely subjugated by the forced primacy of "Christian" scripture?
Come on! Hypatia's brutal murder at the hands of a Christian mob of "Taliban" may not have signaled the beginning of the Dark Ages, but it was entirely consistent with the end of rational free-thinking represented by Hellenistic science.
This film bent over backwards to present a balanced view of the murder of Hypatia. If anything, it made the Christians look better than how most of the historical references presented it.
So you really think this was just another Church-bashing pandering to neo-atheists? Without repeating some of the other objections above, do you really believe:
1) that Cyril was just doing what any good bishop would do under like circumstances? Do you know what the Novations stood for and why he persecuted them? Why he called in his personal army of Nitrian monks (though how they could remotely be considered "men of God" is beyond me) to do his dirty work?
2) that Giordano Bruno's brutal execution was just because he was a nutcase and raving mystic, so not really a true attack on science?
3) that what we now think of as scientific principles of investigation were not undermined, threatened, and eventually completely subjugated by the forced primacy of "Christian" scripture?
Come on! Hypatia's brutal murder at the hands of a Christian mob of "Taliban" may not have signaled the beginning of the Dark Ages, but it was entirely consistent with the end of rational free-thinking represented by Hellenistic science.
This film bent over backwards to present a balanced view of the murder of Hypatia. If anything, it made the Christians look better than how most of the historical references presented it.
The "end of Rational Free-Thinking represented by Hellenistic Science"?
Really now?
Oooh. Extra points for the Cyril conspiracy theory and digging up Bruno again.
