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Post by turoldus on Oct 10, 2013 15:38:44 GMT
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Post by merkavah12 on Oct 11, 2013 1:40:24 GMT
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Post by unkleE on Oct 11, 2013 11:01:56 GMT
For what it's worth Larry Hurtado has commented briefly on this. He's not very impressed.
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Post by timoneill on Oct 11, 2013 22:19:58 GMT
For what it's worth Larry Hurtado has commented briefly on this. He's not very impressed. More importantly, the Great Historian himself, Artie Ziff, hath declared that Atwill is WRONG. So it is so, for the Great One hath spoken! All peons will now fall silent!
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Post by noons on Oct 12, 2013 14:10:06 GMT
Don't mean to get off topic, but Tim, have you seen the Artie Ziff Treehouse of Horror episode?
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Post by timoneill on Oct 12, 2013 17:50:48 GMT
Don't mean to get off topic, but Tim, have you seen the Artie Ziff Treehouse of Horror episode? Was that the Back to the Future spoof, where Bart returns to the future and finds Artie was his father? Truly horrific. In other news, even Archarya S/Dotty Murdock thinks Atwill is wrong.
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Post by metacrock on Oct 12, 2013 18:14:05 GMT
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Post by timoneill on Oct 12, 2013 20:13:35 GMT
Tom Verenna aka "Thomas L. Verenna" aka "Rook Hawkins - Ancient Text Expert" is no Bible scholar either. But with Verenna, Carrier and Archaya all against him, I'm almost starting to like Atwill.
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Post by sandwiches on Oct 13, 2013 11:57:23 GMT
Tom Verenna aka "Thomas L. Verenna" aka "Rook Hawkins - Ancient Text Expert" is no Bible scholar either. But with Verenna, Carrier and Archaya all against him, I'm almost starting to like Atwill.A terrible comment. Atwill is causing embarrassment to true scholars: freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/4664Joseph Atwill is one of those crank mythers I often get conflated with. Mythicists like him make the job of serious scholars like me so much harder, because people see, hear, or read them and think their nonsense is what mythicism is. They make mythicism look ridiculous. So I have to waste time (oh by the gods, so much time) explaining how I am not arguing anything like their theories or using anything like their terrible methods, and unlike them I actually know what I am talking about, and have an actual Ph.D. in a relevant subject from a real university.
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Post by metacrock on Oct 13, 2013 16:00:48 GMT
Tom Verenna aka "Thomas L. Verenna" aka "Rook Hawkins - Ancient Text Expert" is no Bible scholar either. But with Verenna, Carrier and Archaya all against him, I'm almost starting to like Atwill. why are they agaisnt him? He's a myther. Are they really so campy that they have to support only their view. O silly question.
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Post by metacrock on Oct 13, 2013 16:02:28 GMT
Tom Verenna aka "Thomas L. Verenna" aka "Rook Hawkins - Ancient Text Expert" is no Bible scholar either. But with Verenna, Carrier and Archaya all against him, I'm almost starting to like Atwill.A terrible comment. Atwill is causing embarrassment to true scholars: freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/4664Joseph Atwill is one of those crank mythers I often get conflated with. Mythicists like him make the job of serious scholars like me so much harder, because people see, hear, or read them and think their nonsense is what mythicism is. They make mythicism look ridiculous. So I have to waste time (oh by the gods, so much time) explaining how I am not arguing anything like their theories or using anything like their terrible methods, and unlike them I actually know what I am talking about, and have an actual Ph.D. in a relevant subject from a real university. True scholarship?
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Post by ignorantianescia on Oct 13, 2013 16:39:16 GMT
Metacrock, sandwiches is not that world-renowned Columbia graduate, the historian with grosses of eager minions and also the futuristic visionary for the digital salvation due within five decades, who goes by the name of Richard Carrier. Rather, he was making a facetious remark about Carrier's blog.
Actually, with respect to Verenna, it seems this silliness by Atwill is doing quite a lot of good to Verenna's e-reputation. He is being upheld as a scholar and historian at several blogs and a HuffPo opinion article.
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Post by metacrock on Oct 13, 2013 17:03:53 GMT
Metacrock, sandwiches is not that world-renowned Columbia graduate, the historian with grosses of eager minions and also the futuristic visionary for the digital salvation due within five decades, who goes by the name of Richard Carrier. Rather, he was making a facetious remark about Carrier's blog. Actually, with respect to Verenna, it seems this silliness by Atwill is doing quite a lot of good to Verenna's e-reputation. He is being upheld as a scholar and historian at several blogs and a HuffPo opinion article. I realized that after a bit. I changed my post. In my view real mythicism is not that much less absurd than the outlandish versions.
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Post by timoneill on Oct 14, 2013 20:28:54 GMT
Actually, with respect to Verenna, it seems this silliness by Atwill is doing quite a lot of good to Verenna's e-reputation. He is being upheld as a scholar and historian at several blogs and a HuffPo opinion article. Yes but virtually any idiot can be an authority on history on HuffPo: *Cough cough*
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Post by labarum on Oct 14, 2013 23:00:31 GMT
But with Verenna, Carrier and Archaya all against him, I'm almost starting to like Atwill. Apparently, Atwill and Acharya made a video last year of them having a "conversation" on Atwill's thesis. My guess is that Acharya realized this guy might outflank her in the lunatic fringe market and she needs to reject him firmly to re-establish herself as the "go to" source on Jesus with the tinfoil hat crowd.
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