Post by dmitry on Dec 14, 2015 1:19:58 GMT
In the early middle ages the germanic tribes that controlled much of western Europe were very tribal, much like the Arabs are today. It was in this period that the catholic church started to take a very strict view on cousin marrige, forbiding it between as far as 8th cousins! Interestingly tribalism in Europe had all but disapeared by the 12th century (and in scandinavia by the 14th), while despite being a religion whous founder strongly oposed tribalism (acording to a hadith Muhammad once said that anyone who is proud about an identity exept that of a muslim (especialy tribal) should "bite his fathers ......", despite such a war on tribalism it continued to flourish (and is still flourishing).
Now its clear that a lack of tribalism is a special aspect of western civilisation (with the exeption of areas like southern italy were the ban on cousin marrige was mostly ignored) and I am wondering if the disapearance of tribalism in the west (which had a profound impact on its development since the weakening of familial structures alowed for other structures (like corporations) to apear) has something to do with the catholic ban on cousin marrige, while the extreme tribalism of much of the muslim world has something to do with this civilisation being the one with the strongest amount of such marriges in the world.
Now thats just a thought from my side and I wonder what you people here think of it, did the catholic ban on cousine marrige play a significant part in the end of tribalism in Europe?
Now its clear that a lack of tribalism is a special aspect of western civilisation (with the exeption of areas like southern italy were the ban on cousin marrige was mostly ignored) and I am wondering if the disapearance of tribalism in the west (which had a profound impact on its development since the weakening of familial structures alowed for other structures (like corporations) to apear) has something to do with the catholic ban on cousin marrige, while the extreme tribalism of much of the muslim world has something to do with this civilisation being the one with the strongest amount of such marriges in the world.
Now thats just a thought from my side and I wonder what you people here think of it, did the catholic ban on cousine marrige play a significant part in the end of tribalism in Europe?