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Post by ydoethur on Nov 16, 2018 7:11:01 GMT
That part seems to have been removed from the post now. Interesting - maybe he's thought better of it. It would be sensible, and therefore I wasn't expecting him to do it. If anyone wants to feel their jaw drop, this page from just five months ago is quite something: www.richardcarrier.info/fairtrial.html
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Post by hammurabi on Nov 16, 2018 10:42:14 GMT
www.richardcarrier.info/archives/14888"The evidence now also shows the defendants lied several times in the course of the Ohio case. Which is evidence you should not even be trusting them." They are liars! It can't get better than this!
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Post by hammurabi on Nov 16, 2018 10:48:41 GMT
That part seems to have been removed from the post now. Interesting - maybe he's thought better of it. It would be sensible, and therefore I wasn't expecting him to do it. If anyone wants to feel their jaw drop, this page from just five months ago is quite something: www.richardcarrier.info/fairtrial.htmlNo, he is working on it: "This means I shall have to re-file my lawsuit against each Defendant individually in their own states of residence. I am working on that now." Your expectations were right (or lack of)
I just love this guy!
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Post by fortigurn on Nov 16, 2018 11:49:21 GMT
No, he is working on it: "This means I shall have to re-file my lawsuit against each Defendant individually in their own states of residence. I am working on that now." Your expectations were right (or lack of) I just love this guy!
Oh I meant that part is missing from the post originally linked. Thanks for the link to Carrier himself.
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Post by jamierobertson on Nov 16, 2018 13:09:41 GMT
No, he is working on it: "This means I shall have to re-file my lawsuit against each Defendant individually in their own states of residence. I am working on that now." The statute of limitations has passed in the other relevant states. He's goosed. And I'm astounded that he hasn't looked at this stuff before blowing off to all and sundry about how he'll continue legal action.
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Post by ydoethur on Nov 16, 2018 17:36:03 GMT
No, he is working on it: "This means I shall have to re-file my lawsuit against each Defendant individually in their own states of residence. I am working on that now." Your expectations were right (or lack of) I just love this guy!
Oh I meant that part is missing from the post originally linked. Thanks for the link to Carrier himself. Looks as if it's been reinstated, along with an additional link. I hate to stoop to Carrier's level, but is he actually crazy? The judge kicks out his case not just on a technicality but on the basis that he claimed to have provided evidence when he hadn't. At least he hasn't called the judge insane. Maybe somebody explained 'contempt of court' to him. Now let's hope somebody explains to him, for his sake if not for that of World popcorn merchants, what 'statute of limitations' means.
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Post by fortigurn on Nov 16, 2018 17:55:16 GMT
Looks as if it's been reinstated, along with an additional link. Nice. The judge. * "Plaintiff has provided almost no evidence or factual allegations to support his conclusion" Carrier. * "You may have been misleadingly told the case was dismissed on the merits. It wasn’t. It was solely the Ohio jurisdiction that was rejected"
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Post by ignorantianescia on Nov 16, 2018 18:11:12 GMT
The judge. * "Plaintiff has provided almost no evidence or factual allegations to support his conclusion" Carrier. * "You may have been misleadingly told the case was dismissed on the merits. It wasn’t. It was solely the Ohio jurisdiction that was rejected" A nice analogy for his: - Jesus Mythicism
- Fine-tuning crankery
- Scepticism about early mediaeval watermills in England
- Revamp of the conflict thesis
- Theories about Hitler
- Armchair diagnoses about mental health
- Writings about Bayes' Theorem
Did I miss anything?
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Post by ydoethur on Nov 16, 2018 18:37:46 GMT
Looks as if it's been reinstated, along with an additional link. Nice. The judge. * "Plaintiff has provided almost no evidence or factual allegations to support his conclusion" Carrier. * "You may have been misleadingly told the case was dismissed on the merits. It wasn’t. It was solely the Ohio jurisdiction that was rejected" But the most surreal part is the opening: Because the Defendants claim they didn’t know I was in Ohio when they defamed me. Yes, in the age of the internet, that shouldn’t matter. But the law is weird.
And he seems to not understand that the fact he claimed they did know is just a teensy bit of a problem. As it happens, I wouldn't be surprised if he was right that they knew. I did, and I'm hardly an assiduous follower of his blog, still less his Facebook page. But that's not the point. Supposition isn't enough. He claimed they did know, and provided what he claimed was evidence they did, and the judge found both wanting. It is also worth pointing out that the defendants' lawyer I am so critical of upthread did indeed pick this very point out in Carrier's testimony, quizzed him on it and got no very good answer, and that would seem to have been the basis for this ruling.
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Post by ydoethur on Nov 16, 2018 18:40:53 GMT
The judge. * "Plaintiff has provided almost no evidence or factual allegations to support his conclusion" Carrier. * "You may have been misleadingly told the case was dismissed on the merits. It wasn’t. It was solely the Ohio jurisdiction that was rejected" A nice analogy for his: - Jesus Mythicism
- Fine-tuning crankery
- Scepticism about early mediaeval watermills in England
- Revamp of the conflict thesis
- Theories about Hitler
- Armchair diagnoses about mental health
- Writings about Bayes' Theorem
Did I miss anything? He also claims drinking whisky in moderation improves cognitive function: debunkingdenialism.com/2013/07/27/richard-carrier-and-the-health-effects-of-alcohol-consumption/This is a clear case of cherry-picking and the science is actually not that clear at all regarding his claims about cognitive benefits. His source for those claims, a sociologist by the name of David Hanson, is an anti-psychiatry crank and promotes quack treatments for substance addiction. Furthermore, Dr. Carrier does not tell his readers that alcohol can indirectly cause the death of neurons via Wernicke–Korsakoff syndrome that is a result of thiamine deficiency due to chronic alcohol abuse.
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Post by ydoethur on Nov 17, 2018 10:55:14 GMT
Oh dear oh dear:
'What will happen is that the defense will file a motion to dismiss on statute, and we’ll file a brief in opposition arguing the statute was satisfied by the cause of action having been initiated within the appropriate time and was delayed by legal process. Since you can’t file in multiple jurisdictions simultaneously, and it’s generally agreed the law cannot expect you to do the impossible, a dismissal for jurisdiction in one venue can warrant something akin to statute tolling elsewhere as the action seeks an appropriate venue. It’s all very technical. But the upshot is, odds are, this won’t be an obstacle.'
I don't think this is right. I'm fairly sure you can file in several states simultaneously. All other issues aside, that's just what he's proposing to do now.
What will happen if his lawyer's arguments are rejected again?
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Post by jamierobertson on Nov 17, 2018 12:51:43 GMT
What will happen if his lawyer's arguments are rejected again? He'll call his lawyer insane. Or a closet Christian apologist.
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Post by ydoethur on Jul 8, 2019 17:33:14 GMT
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Post by James Hannam on Jul 9, 2019 20:46:09 GMT
I think the whole thing is tragic and sad. It’s bad enough he has destroyed himself, but he just won’t stop which is madness.
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Post by fortigurn on Jul 10, 2019 9:43:19 GMT
Wow, he really went there. I though this was pretty hilarious, from the first part of the article. Interesting to see atheists now describing his Jesus mythicism view with less respect, now that he has fallen from grace. But this was even more savage. Ouch. He really is persona non grata. And they're positively branding him with a powerful shaming word. I guess that's how he'll be remembered from now on.
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