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Post by turoldus on May 21, 2009 14:42:47 GMT
This is the title of Philip Ball's editorial in this month's Nature. It's not available on the magazine's website, but can be read at the Reason Project's:
http://www.reasonproject.org/newsfeed/item/how_much_reason_do_you_want/
Ball, while being an atheist, is not enough of a doctrinaire to please the RPers who eviscerate his article in the comments section. Ball replies on his blog:
http://philipball.blogspot.com/2009/05/whatever-you-do-dont-call-them-militant.html
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Post by humphreyclarke on May 21, 2009 18:33:49 GMT
I honesty can't see what they had to complain about with Philip Ball's piece in Nature. I mean, it wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement but it was hardly that critical either' lukewarm perhaps. Whatever it was the Reason Project has certainly got off to a great start by putting it in the 'Hall of Shame' section. Frankly it's embarrassing.
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Post by sandwiches on May 21, 2009 20:59:54 GMT
Don't you think Charlotte Allen hit the nail on the head? www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-allen17-2009may17,0,491082.story Atheists: No God, no reason, just whining Superstar atheists are motivated by anger -- and boohoo victimhood. By Charlotte Allen May 17, 2009 "I can't stand atheists -- but it's not because they don't believe in God. It's because they're crashing bores. The problem with atheists -- and what makes them such excruciating snoozes -- is that few of them are interested in making serious metaphysical or epistemological arguments against God's existence, or in taking on the serious arguments that theologians have made attempting to reconcile, say, God's omniscience with free will or God's goodness with human suffering. What primarily seems to motivate atheists isn't rationalism but anger -- anger that the world isn't perfect, that someone forced them to go to church as children, that the Bible contains apparent contradictions, that human beings can be hypocrites and commit crimes in the name of faith. The vitriol is extraordinary...." |
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Post by turoldus on May 25, 2009 21:18:53 GMT
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Post by sandwiches on May 30, 2009 11:50:46 GMT
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Post by noons on May 30, 2009 13:55:25 GMT
I can't help but notice how the New Atheists comments only serve to prove her point.
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Post by sandwiches on May 30, 2009 16:16:29 GMT
Indeedy, as some of the responses in the Guardian noted. I wonder if that was partly her aim? I rather suspect it was. Well done Charlotte. I wonder if the messageboard atheists know at heart that what she says has at least some truth. Otherwise why all the angry responses?
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Post by hawkinthesnow on Jun 4, 2009 20:32:30 GMT
New Atheists remind me of the joke about the agnostic protest marchers "WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT....AND WE WANT IT NOW!!
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Post by alinator on Jun 24, 2009 19:44:12 GMT
I know what I want. I want a world where human progression is not confined by observably false mythology and where people don't go the voting booth and affect the lives of others because of those false beliefs.
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Post by turoldus on Jun 26, 2009 8:12:51 GMT
I know what I want. I want a world where human progression is not confined by observably false mythology and where people don't go the voting booth and affect the lives of others because of those false beliefs. Sounds like you have a problem with democracy rather than religion. |
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