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Post by turoldus on Sept 13, 2011 16:50:06 GMT
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Post by jamierobertson on Sept 15, 2011 8:23:12 GMT
Well... duh. If you believe that God exists, then your own opinions are obviously going to roughly equate with "what God would do". I mean, how many Christians would say "I firmly believe that Almighty God wants us to clothe the poor, but frankly I just prefer the feel of Social Darwinism. So screw Him." The findings don't prove that 'we make God in our own image'; it's just as easy to say that we attempt to discern what God wants and then each follow our own different conclusions.
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Post by rainmac on Sept 15, 2011 18:09:37 GMT
God and other religious beliefs are projections of the inner psyche. Jung would say they are manifestations of the collective unconscious. I suppose this is news to some people, but as jamierobertson said, "Well...duh." I couldn't agree more.
Here's a slightly different take on people's belief in God. Psychologists Justin Barrett and Frank Keil showed that what people claimed to be their belief about God did not accurately portray their real world views. The researchers gave questionnaires to ascertain the subjects’ attitudes about God and then presented vignettes containing God in the story. Subjects then answered questions about the story. The researchers concluded that people’s stated attitude about God changed depending on the mode in which God was presented. “It appears that people have at least two parallel God concepts that are used in different contexts, and these concepts may be fundamentally incompatible...The concept of God used in the context of listening to and remembering stories is not the same as the concept of God that is claimed in a more abstract, theological setting,” Barrett and Keil wrote. They concluded, “People seem to possess and use more than one concept of God in real-life activities, and these parallel concepts have some markedly different properties.”
As Pascal Boyer, author of Religion Explained: The Evolutionary Origins of Religious Thought, so sagaciously said, “People do not believe what they believe they believe.” Religious belief is not the basis to understand the evolution and origins of religion. Religious behavior is.
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Post by unkleE on Sept 15, 2011 23:48:01 GMT
God and other religious beliefs are projections of the inner psyche. Here is another case of an assumption. I'm not denying that some religious beliefs may be projections of inner psyche, nor that our concepts of God may be inconsistent - they surely must be, granted how beyond our understanding God must be. But it is enormous jump from "people project their beliefs of God" to "God is a projection"! It is logically invalid (the one doesn't follow from the other as a logical argument), and obviously invalid (for example, a baby's views about her mother may involve projection, but the mother is nevertheless a reality and more than a projection). |
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Post by jamierobertson on Sept 16, 2011 11:08:35 GMT
Bravo, Unklee. To clarify: I don't doubt SOME people create their own version of God based on their own beliefs, but it could just as easily be the other way around.
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Post by himself on Oct 23, 2011 20:25:32 GMT
God and other religious beliefs are projections of the inner psyche. Jung would say they are manifestations of the collective unconscious. I suppose this is news to some people, but as jamierobertson said, "Well...duh." I couldn't agree more. Whatever an 'inner psyche' and a 'collective unconscious' are. Do they differ from outer psyches? Psychologists Justin Barrett and Frank Keil showed that... Do people still regard questionnaires as if they were scientific instruments measuring an objective property? Do they still regard psychology as a science? Let alone that the projections of the psychologists amount to "showing that"? |
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