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Post by noons on Dec 18, 2010 21:50:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2010 20:28:55 GMT
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Post by eckadimmock on Dec 23, 2010 7:59:00 GMT
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Post by ignorantianescia on Jan 21, 2011 12:04:32 GMT
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Post by gakuseidon on Jan 21, 2011 21:10:17 GMT
I'm not sure if this qualifies, but: Did the Pygmies have an advanced Global Civilization? According to Acharya S, the answer is "Yes!" How else to explain the mummified remains of little people or "aliens" reported to be found in caves or in Tibetan monasteries? members.optusnet.com.au/gakuseidon/advanced_pygmies.html |
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Post by gymnopodie on Jan 22, 2011 12:57:53 GMT
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Post by elephantchang51 on Jan 22, 2011 14:48:22 GMT
But why only in America?Does anyone have a theory?It seems a massive paradox to be so advanced in so many areas,and be so powerful,yet...,not being disrespectful,just baffled!
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Post by gymnopodie on Jan 22, 2011 16:13:59 GMT
elephantchang51 wrote:
To put it bluntly and to oversimplify it, we got Europe's rejects, mostly from Great Britain. It's a great myth taught in our schools that folks migrated here for religious freedom. The First Great Awakening started here even while we were a colony of Great Britain. At least two more Awakenings have occurred since then. So, the origin of it actually started in Europe but it caught on here and evolved into what we have today.
I think education is the main reason why it continued to develop here but not in Europe. Our public school system (public school has a different meaning in the UK) has been under constant attack by the fundamentalists, so young students never get to hear the truth about evolution. Furthermore kids learn fundamentalism from their parents and churches. My step son teaches science here and when the class studies turn to evolution, students bring their Bibles and argue with him. Another problem is Bible colleges and there are plenty of them.
Fundamentalism used to be popular in the rural, undereducated South, but now there are well educated proponents from California to Michigan. It has not only infiltrated our schools, it has infiltrated our politics, and is destroying us as a nation. Our last president is an excellent example.
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Post by himself on Feb 6, 2011 1:58:00 GMT
OTOH, Jerry Pournelle went to HS in Tennessee when the Scopes Law was still in effect and learned all about Darwinian explanations of evolution. He went to a Catholic HS and his teacher - a Brother of the Christian Schools - told him: "It is illegal for me to teach you evolution in Tennessee; so I will teach you about evolution in Kentucky."
Then, too, I had no problem learning the Darwinian theory, either. Pennsylvania, and Catholic school.
A prime reason was spotted by G.K.Chesterton back when he wrote about the Scopes Trial. And that is that fanboys and camp followers of science, as well as some science popularizers, use the scientific theory to advance their cultural and political programs. Thus, the Darwinian explanation of evolution gets conflated first with the French Terror, then with eugenics, now more recently with atheism and materialism; this, despite the fact that none of these things follow from the scientific theory itself.
This has not been done with any of the theories in the hard sciences: theories of electromagnetism, of gravity, etc. Relativity has been used to justify moral relativism; but physicists have not cooperated, and most everyone sees that it is equivocation on the term.
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Post by gymnopodie on Feb 6, 2011 19:02:08 GMT
himself wrote:
Considering his political persuasion, it didn't do him much good. I wonder if he had any influence upon his pal, Newt Gingrich, going from Baptist to RC? Sorry, I just can't picture intelligent, progressive Catholics dumbing themselves down to the likes of Sarah Palin or the Tea Partyers.
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Post by himself on Feb 7, 2011 2:34:27 GMT
I just can't picture intelligent, progressive Catholics dumbing themselves down to the likes of Sarah Palin or the Tea Partyers. One possibility is that they are not as dumb as the media like to portray them. Otherwise, why would they have to resort to lies, misrepresentations, and special pleading to make their case? This is not the first time we've seen folks get alinskied. (Pick a target, make it personal, people hurt sooner than institutions.) |
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Post by gymnopodie on Feb 7, 2011 4:18:03 GMT
No. That's not a possibility...
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Post by davedodo007 on Feb 12, 2011 17:10:23 GMT
elephantchang51 wrote:To put it bluntly and to oversimplify it, we got Europe's rejects, mostly from Great Britain. It's a great myth taught in our schools that folks migrated here for religious freedom. The First Great Awakening started here even while we were a colony of Great Britain. At least two more Awakenings have occurred since then. So, the origin of it actually started in Europe but it caught on here and evolved into what we have today. I think education is the main reason why it continued to develop here but not in Europe. Our public school system (public school has a different meaning in the UK) has been under constant attack by the fundamentalists, so young students never get to hear the truth about evolution. Furthermore kids learn fundamentalism from their parents and churches. My step son teaches science here and when the class studies turn to evolution, students bring their Bibles and argue with him. Another problem is Bible colleges and there are plenty of them. Fundamentalism used to be popular in the rural, undereducated South, but now there are well educated proponents from California to Michigan. It has not only infiltrated our schools, it has infiltrated our politics, and is destroying us as a nation. Our last president is an excellent example. It does seem strange that a country that put man on the moon and has been at the forefront of most of the technological advances in the world should start turning it's back on science. A people who are normally so patriotic in other areas don't seem to be proud of its many scientific advances. Even their own politicians seem hell bent on undermining their own countries status. There is going to be a point were you have to import scientists and in an anti-science environment how many are going to stay. I'm afraid it's going to take a strong leader with a grand idea (like a manned trip to Mars or something) to get Americans behind science again. With money being tight I can't see anything like that happening soon. |
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