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Post by bjorn on May 17, 2011 17:04:55 GMT
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joel
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Post by joel on May 17, 2011 17:13:17 GMT
Isn't the ASA an organization of Christians who are scientists? Why would they of all people endorse this?
Sadly, a quick glance at the comments section shows that the conflict thesis will probably never die...
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Post by bjorn on May 18, 2011 7:40:37 GMT
Isn't the ASA an organization of Christians who are scientists? Why would they of all people endorse this? For a variety of reasons and perhaps agendas, I guess, some of them working together, like: 1: They don't know better - grown up with this stuff and don't even think about checking facts 2: Theological reasons - they want to reform The(ir) Church(es) today and need to show how bad it has been before (The Constantine Trap) 3: They want to show Non-Christians that Christians today are honest about their faults and not like those fanatics 4: They want to show that Creationists or ID-supporteres and the ilk are just as backward in their attitudes to science and scientists as the Alexandrians in the 3-400's. Sadly, a quick glance at the comments section shows that the conflict thesis will probably never die... Indeed. Adds nicely to the income for some of us, though;D |
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Post by acornuser on May 19, 2011 17:19:24 GMT
I dunno Bjorn. It just seems like they were passing on a link to an article that seems to have a very high view of ancient Greek culture and learning and lifts that up by denigrating what replaced it. I don't think it is much of a "swallowing" but they probably ought to have critiqued it while passing it on.
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Post by wraggy on May 20, 2011 7:31:59 GMT
Isn't the ASA an organization of Christians who are scientists? Why would they of all people endorse this? One can be a very good scientist and yet be ignorant of History/History of Science. |
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Post by wraggy on May 20, 2011 7:35:06 GMT
By the way Bjorn, can you fix the first link in your opening post? I think that you have omitted the "G" from "org" in your hyperlink.
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Post by bjorn on May 21, 2011 14:24:19 GMT
By the way Bjorn, can you fix the first link in your opening post? I think that you have omitted the "G" from "org" in your hyperlink. Thx, done. |
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Post by captainzman on May 21, 2011 19:22:53 GMT
I dunno Bjorn. It just seems like they were passing on a link to an article that seems to have a very high view of ancient Greek culture and learning and lifts that up by denigrating what replaced it. I don't think it is much of a "swallowing" but they probably ought to have critiqued it while passing it on. I agree with this. I didn't see any comments agreeing or disagreeing with the article. With that being said, it doesn't surprise me Christian scientists would buy into what the article says. The whole dark ages-repression of learning-hooray for the glorious enlightenment approach to history can be really pervasive in scientific circles, especially since your average scientist knows about as little history as possible (he didn't major in it, after all). |
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Post by fortigurn on May 31, 2011 17:34:50 GMT
I was inspired by Tim O'Neill's excellent work on Hypatia to do my own research, and write my own rebuttal to the myth. Thanks Tim.
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