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Post by timoneill on Aug 24, 2011 0:58:55 GMT
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Post by ignorantianescia on Aug 25, 2011 9:47:50 GMT
This looks a bit like a "gender equality in mathematics" version of the Stupidest Thing on the Internet Ever:
Should we still bother with that guy? Most of what he said has been handled with already anyway.
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Post by fortigurn on Aug 25, 2011 11:26:52 GMT
This looks a bit like a "gender equality in mathematics" version of the Stupidest Thing on the Internet Ever: I am so tempted. 'That was an interesting timeline, but I think it could be improved. Cows in the classical era. - - - - - - - - - (Dark Ages, nothing here) - - - - - - - - - (Middle Ages, nothing here) - - - - - - Cows are rediscovered in the Renaissance era. Dairy products were a minor flirtation for rich men only. A curiosity for travellers to foreign lands. And nobody knew about them until the Renaissance.' |
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Post by ignorantianescia on Aug 25, 2011 17:56:45 GMT
This looks a bit like a "gender equality in mathematics" version of the Stupidest Thing on the Internet Ever: I am so tempted. 'That was an interesting timeline, but I think it could be improved. Cows in the classical era. - - - - - - - - - (Dark Ages, nothing here) - - - - - - - - - (Middle Ages, nothing here) - - - - - - Cows are rediscovered in the Renaissance era. Dairy products were a minor flirtation for rich men only. A curiosity for travellers to foreign lands. And nobody knew about them until the Renaissance.' Well, I'd say that is a  neat version of the Stupidest Thing on the Internet Ever. There can be no harm in posting it anyway, talking to MrSkye is as productive as talking to a rock so there is no loss. |
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Post by noons on Aug 27, 2011 3:07:19 GMT
The only comment of any interest to me is this one:
"Don't kid yourself. Iberian moors had a better culture in every aspect than christian europeans, no contest. Better science, math, education, philosophy, art, architecture, music, dance, food, medicine, inventions, SANITATION! And that's why it attracted the wealthy and intellectuals of europe while the majority lived in feudal squalor, disease and ignorance. "
I don't know much about the Iberian moors outside of Age of Empires.
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joel
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Post by joel on Aug 27, 2011 16:01:34 GMT
That is partially true. As any good Medieval textbook or James' book will tell you, Europe did lag behind the Muslim world (at least the Arabians - I'm not sure about the Moors) for awhile. However, eventually the West caught up and surpassed their achievements, well before the end of the Middle Ages.
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Post by himself on Aug 27, 2011 16:42:02 GMT
The Berbers conquered a Spain ruled by Visigoths, but which had been under Byzantine suzerainty for a good long time, and Greco-Roman culture for even longer. Transalpine Europe was always a marginal proposition. One Roman writer compared the Empire to "frogs sitting around a pond." That is, beyond a day or two travel from the Med coast, things were pretty much on their own. When the Med was conquered, Transalpine Europe went through a rough time, until new trade routes were established and the towns no longer had to worry about Vikings, Saracens, and Magyars. So of course Spain was more prosperous during this time. Duh? No one was raiding and burning in Spain; but Spanish Saracens were raiding and burning in France.
After the Caliphate of Cordova collapsed into squabbling emirates things did not look quite so rosy there. And when the Almoravid puritans invaded, Nellie bar the door.
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